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Re: [ECS] [Fwd: ] from Amsterdam Ingo Dean Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:29:13 -0500

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Homevision is available in a European version with PAL video.  See 
http://www.csi3.com/hv_intl.htm and
http://www.ukha.demon.co.uk/homevision_uk.html

There are also a few European home automation sites you can check out
(stolen shamelessly from CSI's homepages):

http://www.ukha.demon.co.uk/index1.html
http://www.io.com/~hattersj/
http://www.io.com/~lbs/

As far as Time/Date formats, isn't that built-in to Windows?  So *if*
Mark uses the standard windows libraries in the new version, shouldn't
it automatically pick up which format you've got configured in the
"Regional Settings" control panel of Win95?  I haven't actually loaded
the new Windows GUI version, but I hope it's there.

--the other ingo

Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
> 
> As for 230V X10, I hear that this is available, at least in the UK and
> Australia. Go to comp.home.automation and ask there; that's where the
> people with experience hang out.
> 
> As for date and time formats: Europe writes dates and times completely
> different from the US - beginning with the fact that Europe usually uses
> 24-hour time rather than 12-hour, and month and day are exchang. For
> instance, what we would write as
> 
> 12/26/98 4:00 PM, in Germany would be written as 26.12.98 16.00 In the
> Netherlands, it's probably similar but may yet again be different (Japan
> uses 98-12-26, yet another format!).
> 
> I'm not sure what the point of implementing just that would be, though,
> because ECS is in many other respects a very American program. This begins
> with English speech, adherance to US telephone standards (European
> telephone numbers are generally NOT 3+7 digits, and 0, not 1, indicates
> another area code) and to US needs (one important feature in the European
> market would be, I imagine, is keeping track of telephone expenses - with
> the cheap US rates and free local calls, it's a non-issue here. Where
> people buy Caller ID devices in the US, they buy telephone charge tracking
> devices in Europe).
> 
> Basically, anything beyond using straight X-10 is likely to cause problems.
> In fact, even X10 itself will cause problems because none of the X-10 PLCs
> will work unchanged in Europe - the best bet is probably the LynX-10 with a
> 230V TW-523. Home Vision? Forget it, they don't use NTSC TVs.
> 
> Ingo
> 
> At 09:15 AM 12/26/98 -0800, Mark Gilmore wrote:
> >>>>
> Might anyone offer any advice to Eric ?
> I don't know what he means by euro time/date formats,
> and know nothing about X-10 in Europe.
> Tanx
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> Mark Gilmore
> Omnipotence (Home Automation Software)
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> Hi, Living in Amsterdam is easy.. but not  for X10 things.  Just before I
> start to look into your  program...is it able to deal with european date
> and time formats? Switches have differents numbers over  here, 230V 50Hz
> etc etc
> So please tell me if your program  is something for me?  Eric
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