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RE: [ECS] dos base continued Carl Keyes Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:21:07 PST

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Bill Bass,or whomever,

I'm curious as to what HA app it may be that has
all the Win conventions you've mentioned. I've
experimented with most of them and I'm surprised
to hear that one exists. HAL2000 in particular
seems much further from standard than ECS.

carl




>Reply-To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:37:56 -0800
>To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
>From: Ingo Pakleppa <ipakleppa@home.com>
>Cc: <ecs-list@netbloc.com>
>Subject: RE: [ECS] dos base continued
>
>Excellent point! In fact, nowadays, most programs have 
context-sensitive
>help, and you'll often find a ? icon next to the minimize and maximize
>buttons that switches into a context-sensitive mode. Similarly,
>right-clicking on any control would bring up a popup window with help 
for
>that particular control.
>
>Ingo
>
>At 09:40 PM 1/26/99 -0500, Kevin Keast wrote:
>>How about help menus that are like all other help menus for windows.  
That
>>is a biggie.
>>
>>Also, as mentioned toolbars, allowing more ways to do the same thing.
>>
>>Kevin
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dan Carrington [mailto:dc_grafx@microworks.net]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 4:52 PM
>>> To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
>>> Subject: Re: [ECS] dos base continued
>>>
>>>
>>> I really don't know what to tell you Mark, as ECS is a very simple
>>> program to navigate, but computer users that are not really computer
>>> literate like things to look and work like they are used to.  In 
many
>>> ways, the File/Edit/View/Etc are redundant ways to find the commands
>>> that are many times found with the right mouse button, screen 
buttons,
>>> or hot keys/Function keys.  Also, extra commands that would be 
clutter
>>> or rarely use for screen buttons.  Things under file would be Save,
>>> Print current event, print all events, print cfg, and exit.  Things 
I
>>> could see in edit would the undo, cut, copy, paste, delete, select 
all,
>>> find, find next, replace and such.  You could have direct buttons 
for
>>> showing which events and groups an item is in and what other items 
are
>>> the same type.  The info that used to be found by hitting "?" five 
times
>>> at the item's name in the item menu.  I still don't know how to find
>>> that info under windows.  How about debugging commands?  The 
commands to
>>> visually watch ECS go through the event lines and process events.  
The
>>> commands to record and save the program level processing that we 
send
>>> you for debugging.  Commands to watch a serial port to capture 
commands
>>> from something.  One more nice thing to have on the menu, is the 
help
>>> selection with the info option under it to find out what version of 
ECS
>>> you are on.  You could put your address, e-mail, phone, etc under 
the
>>> info if you wanted.  You could put registration info if you are 
running
>>> the light version and want to buy the full version.
>>>
>>> Dan Carrington
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Gilmore wrote:
>>> >
>>> > This is just my humble opinion, but I THINK that
>>> > if I were a PC novice, that the current ECS menu
>>> > is much more intuitive than "FILE/EDIT/VIEW/etc".
>>> > I don't even know what "EDIT" & "VIEW" menus
>>> > would relate to in this context.
>>> >
>>> > I guess I could make a "FILE/MESSAGES/ITEMS/EVENTS/HELP"
>>> > menu though. The reason I didn't do this in the 1st place
>>> > was to save on screen space.
>>> > --
>>> > Mark Gilmore
>>> > Omnipotence (ECS Home Automation Software)
>>> > omnip@usit.net
>>> > http://www.usit.com/omnip
>>>
>>
>>


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