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RE: [ECS] IR Master 100S gbailey Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:55:42 -0700

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Exactly.  That is the easiest and cheapest way to get extra outputs.
The IR Master specifically says it can drive a dual emitter.  I don't
know if you could series or parallel more than that as the emitter
strength would decrease or the power drain on the IR Master would
increase (serial or parallel respectively)

Two is pretty much the limit, although you can sometimes get away with three
if they have a very low forward voltage drop.

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-----Original Message-----
From:	Dan Carrington [mailto:dc_grafx@microworks.net]
Sent:	Wednesday, February 03, 1999 1:54 PM
To:	ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject:	Re: [ECS] IR Master 100S
You can double up any two
items that do not act on the same commands.  This works ok as possible
doubled equipment is usually in another room to which you would use
another output and a different send-) location.  Just remember that a
generic send will send to all outputs and the output on the IR Master
itself.  A receive, either directly into the IR Master or the remote
receiver should just show up as a receive.  I don't think that you could
differentiate between different rooms receiving the same command.
Different brands of equipment use different IR command sets and even the
same units, like two of the same brand and type VCR's, can many times be
set to different command sets by a switch on the remote.  Like
VCR1-VCR2-TV type switches which send different IR to the same type
equipment.

Dan



Mark Sekelsky wrote:
>
> Dan,
>
> Regarding the double emitters; let me see if I understand this.  I plug a
> double emitter into jack #1.  I put 1 emitter on my receiver and another
on
> my CD player.  If I want to turn the receiver on I have ECS do a Send->
for
> the receiver.  the CD player would ALSO receive the signal, but bot
respond
> since it would not recognize this signal?
>
> Mark S
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Carrington [mailto:dc_grafx@microworks.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 1:46 PM
> To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
> Subject: Re: [ECS] IR Master 100S
>
> A couple of things.
>
> Dancraft makes an 8 output breakout board but I don't think ECS supports
> it as I have never seen a way to use it.  Dancraft says it will work
> with the 100 model on their paperwork.  I would love to find a way to
> use the other Dancraft boards as they can even add inputs or outputs on
> the same Serial port as the IR Master.
>
> There are double stick on emitters, one 1/8 inch plug with a y shaped
> cord and two IR LED's in series that work fine with the IR Masters and
> the 3 way breakout board.  That gives you six emitters with no
> problems.  That is how I currently use mine.  2 dual emitters directly
> controlling the equipment in the theater where the IR Master is and one
> single emitter routed into another room.  It works fine that way.
> Extensions are just 2 conductor wires with a jack on one end and a plug
> on the other.  Tip to Tip, Ring to Ring.
>
> You could also create your own routing system with a set of relays from
> any relay type item and have a single output be switched to multi rooms
> or equipment beyond the 3 outputs of the IR Master.
>
> For future expansion, take a look into other systems to route IR.  HAS
> catalog has them on page 77.  It looks like the brand name on the
> products is Xantech.  There are powered 4, 6, or 10 emitter blocks that
> take a single input and power more outputs that probably could even take
> the dual emitters and double your capacity.  There are also 2, 4, or 6
> zone connectors that let you split and common IR signals also.  I would
> expect that they would work with any standard type IR like the IR
> Master.  IR signals and the power levels to drive the LED's are
> basically the same across the board as all can use the same type of
> emitters.  The question here would be:
> Can the output of one IR driver be routed directly into the receiver
> port of another?  The receiver ports show three connections.  Power for
> the receiver, ground, and input.  I would assume ground to ground and
> signal out to IR input?  Does anybody know if this is feasible?
> Otherwise you would need to put an emmitter face to face with a receiver
> and tape with black tape to keep spurious emissions from controlling
> anything.  Does anybody else have an answer to this electronics IR
> question?
>
> Dan Carrington
>
> Mark Sekelsky wrote:
> >
> > I have an IR Master 100S.  It currently sits in front of my AV equipment
> but
> > I am tired of people thoughtlessly <g> putting things in front of it.  I
> > want to switch to using mini-emitters.  Dancrafts web site has a I/O
> > breakout board that attaches to the unit but it only has plugs for three
> > emitters (I want 4 and that is just today).  Does anybody no a source
for
> an
> > I/O board that will give me 4 or more emitters?
> >
> > TIA
> > Mark S

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