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RE: [ECS] Best security setup w/ ECS HV-PC Martin Terry Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:45:54 -0700

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Thanks for the input Kevin.

I have the same Arm/Disarm setup through a keyswitch zone, I'm using zone 9
off of the LCD keypad itself wired back to my comm closet. ECS provides the
momentary relay closure to arm the system. ECS also monitors armed/disarmed
status. I've got all this working through ACE (GREAT PROGRAM).

I don't have any PIRs on my system, only hardwired door and window sensors.
My panel is wired to my 2nd phone line via a 66 block. I'm also using a good
quality shielded cable for the intercoms, with the drains grounded and I
think the noise floor is very low, but I've never put it on a scope. I had
been told that noise was a problem with the intercoms, but I don't notice it
on my system.

I'm not using the music input feature because I'm using all 7 IC stations,
but I also planned to test it with ECS. I do have the "alarm follower"
feature turned on so that when the alarm trips, all the IC stations play an
alarm tone as well. Makes a hellofa racket. :)

I do have the DCS software, both the DOS and Windows version I believe. I've
never used the Windows version. I got them from the BASS site you mentioned
earlier. He also has the manuals posted. I could probably supply them to
you. The DLS software was a wash since it locks out the LCD keypad when the
serial port is connected, so you can't really connect it continuously. It
was useful to setup the system, however.

My next plan is to pump the ECS speach output into the ICs as you are doing.
I hadn't considered SR. I do think I might be able to zone the output,
because all the IC stations pass through a 66 block and I could use a relay
to selectively cut power to any combination of stations. I haven't tried it
however.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Keast [mailto:libertyc@prodigy.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:37 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] Best security setup w/ ECS HV-PC


Hi Martin,

Currently I have ECS Arming and Disarming the system through a keyswith
zone:  I had to put a resister in-line to get it to work.  I think I use a
5.6K in series (I can check if you like).  I monitor the Armed/Disarmed
state of the panel (I think I ran it directly into a HV-PC input (Again I
can check if you are interested).

I have not had the system long and don't have any PIRs installed yet but
will soon so the system isn't really doing any security work yet! (laugh)

I run the output of my sound card through a spitter.  One line goes to the
pc speakers and one line to the "music input" on the DSC 5928.  *6 option 7
enables and disables the input (in case you didn't have it going).

ECS speaks through the intercoms very nicely.  CID announcements and so
forth.

I have also played with the VR side of the house.  I have tried a couple
things:

I used a standard microphone next to a call station and tried to run VR with
ECS that way:  Not very good but it did work!  Problem here is poor mic
quality going to the sound card and the fact that when you are calling from
another station ECS reply cannot be heard very well because you are then
relying on the pc speakers to send the TTS back.

I also have played with running a mic input directly into the 5928.  This
works better but I still have a lot of noise ( the noise floor on the sound
card meter is quite high-using the line-in on the sound card gave me lower
noise than the mic input though).  The problem here is the noise (I don't
have shielded wire for my intercoms, which may help by grounding the drain
wire to the 5928)  I may also build a filter to improve the sound quality-I
don't know.  Another problem here is that you can only tap into one
microphone input (IE one station at a time........unless you could set up a
microphone distribution device and attach all the microphones to it?)

Anyway, I am still playing.  Heck I don't even have my phone line attached
to the darn thing yet.  Did you buy a 31JX jack?  I don't have one can you
get them?

Are you using the DLS software?  Where did you get it.  The place where I
bought mine has a secure site and I am waiting on the login/pw.

What are you doing for your system?

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From:	Martin Terry [mailto:Martin.Terry@mail.tribnet.com]
Sent:	Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:19 PM
To:	'ecs-list@netbloc.com'
Subject:	RE: [ECS] Best security setup w/ ECS HV-PC

Kevin, I also have the DSC 832 and love it, including the intercom. Can you
give some details of how you have integrated the intercom and ECS?


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Keast [mailto:libertyc@prodigy.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 7:54 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] Best security setup w/ ECS HV-PC


Tom,

Hi, I use a DSC Power832 system.  I absolutely love it.  In fact the only
thing I don't like it the fact that you cannot have a serial interface
active all the time for monitoring.  No problem.  I picked up the aux board
that has 8 digital outputs.  My HV-PC listens to these.  It does all that
you are asking and more.  I also bought the intercom system and use it as my
ECS - HOUSE vocal link.  You can also answer phones  from any intercom.  A
outside intercom can also be purchased too.

The system is not real user friendly though as it is a commercial system.

Check out:

www.basshome.com

or

www.norcoalarms.com

I bought stuff from both of these guys.



-----Original Message-----
From:	hutchins.ta@pg.com [mailto:hutchins.ta@pg.com]
Sent:	Thursday, August 26, 1999 7:50 AM
To:	ecs-list@netbloc.com; comp.home.aut@pg.com
Subject:	[ECS] Best security setup w/ ECS HV-PC

I want to buy a security system for my home and would like to interface it
w/ my
automation system (ECS / HV-PC). I need to be able to have the following
capabilities:

1) Latch-key (call me when kids get home from school)
2) Smoke / CO / Flood / Freeze monitoring
3) Be able to differentiate between the above and call me to let me know
which
one it is.
4) Be able to differentiate between zones (ie. 'An intruder has entered
through
the kitchen window' ect)
5) Wireless capability (retrofitting) but combination wireless / hardwire
best
6) Must be upgradable

Obviously must be reasonably priced and be able to install myself
Any recommendations?

Thanks
Tom

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