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| Subject: From: Date: | Re: [ECS] problem upgrading Don Stephens Thu, 6 Jan 2000 07:56:58 -0800 |
Wow! What a mess. You might consider 2 TVL.BATs, one for basic and one for standard.
Have 2 TV-Guide Events, Using different file names, so one doesn't overwrite the other.
Once you figure out how to get the two TV-Guides, and I suppose TV-Listings, then you
can have one TVL event use the Cable Codes, and the other the VCR Codes. It's awkward,
but I can't think of another way out.
Don
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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [ECS] problem upgrading
Great ain't it. And yes the channnel guide they send has 3 channel columns for
basic, std, and digital.
Yeah I was figuring I'd need 2 TZ-E, 2 TV-Guides, and 2 TV-Listings 1 ea for VCR
and 1 ea for cable box.
I currently have TZ-E set up for the VCR so the channels are set up for basic, I
need to add 1 for the cable box. Don't know for sure but there ought to be a way
to have TV.BAT parse TVL.HTM into TVL(VCR).TXT and TVL(STD).TXT and then use
those files for TV-Guide and TVL for each.
Tom
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So to record TBS the VCR needs to be set to #57 while the cable box should be
set to #6 to watch it? Cute. How does one use a paper TV Guide? Are there two
listing?
If this is the case, (Uggh) perhaps you need two TZ-(?).CHN. One for the VCR and
one for the cable box. When you run TVL.BAT which listings do you get, the basic
or enhanced? If you can figure out how to get both listings, maybe we can make
this work.
Don
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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [ECS] problem upgrading
Don,
Many of the channel #'s are different between the basic and the std for
example
TBS is channel 6 on std and channel 57 on basic. Go figure.
Tom
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Tom:
Am I to understand that your cable company's basic channel lineup is
DIFFERENT
than the enhanced cable..or do you need different IR-Signals for the VCR and
Cable Box?
Don
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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ECS] problem upgrading
All,
Never mind about the announcement before recording part, figured that one
out
with help from Mark S. & Don.
Now, my basic cable (TIME WARNER) is fed directly into the VCR on this set
and
so I don't need to use the cable box but rather the VCR to select the
channel.
However on my other set I will use the std cable box to change channels and
the
two don't necessarily use the same channel #'s(thanks TIME WARNER:-().
Therefore
I don't want to just set the cable channels to work with the VCR.
To make a long story short would I create a new event called 'VCR chan set'
and
add a reference to it in TVR just like 'cable chan set' and use some logic
to
decide which " chan set" to use?
And to get really bizarre how hard would it be to have 2 TV-guides one for
basic
cable (VCR) and one for std cable box.
If anyone has read this far and wondering why in the hell would anyone go to
this much trouble it's because the cable box is in the living room and all
hell
would break loose if in the middle of 'Blues Clues' the TV switched to
record
the football game for me. So most of the recording will happen on the second
TV/VCR but it doesn't get all of the cable channels and I can't afford the
extra
cable boxes just for this!
Thanks,
Tom
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Mark S.
By editing the VCR:REC item I mean changing the 'ITEM' VCR:REC from IR
SIGNAL
to
NUMBER and using that to store the IR signal ID. I couldn't see any reason
to
have items set up for IR-2B and then have to set up new ones for HV.
As for the announce I thought that if TVL was set up to record a favorite it
would speak a 'record warning' automatically, is that true?
Tom
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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:23 PM
Subject: RE: [ECS] problem upgrading
I am not sure what you mean by editing VCR:REC, but if you mean editing
the
item in example.cfg the answer is no. The HV unit needs to have your
specific
IR signals stored within it.
I know what you mean about midnight announcements. When I first started
playing with the TVL events I had "Star Trek" announced like a gazillion
times
after midnight. In my case I have a "flag" set when we are in bed. I
simply
added a IF (might be a BEGINIF) statement to not make announcements if we
were
in bed. Mark has this in example.cfg as well (If Awake is Not True, or
something like that). If you don;t have a status such as these you could
easily
incorporate a line(s) like:
If Time Is LT 11:00 PM
And Time Is GT 7:00 AM
Then TV Shows Announce Set Speak
Mark S
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From: Tom Hutchins [mailto:hutchins ta@fuse.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 7:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [ECS] problem upgrading
Mark, Don, Paul,
Thanks to all your help I have TV-Guide / TV-Listings up and running
great!!!!!!!!
I had two things wrong first of all I didn't realize that my TZ-E file
was
overwritten when I upgraded so I had to go back in and "start from scratch"
adding "*"'s and changing the channel #'s. Secondly, when I cut and pasted
some
of the TVL items into ecs.cfg somehow some extra spaces got into the 'FILE :
'
lines and so ECS was looking for " : TVL.TXT" for example. So , a little
editing repair work and now everything works great!!
Now for a question. I want to get the VCR to record my favorites! I
understand the selection of favs no problem. Now I need to get the 'IR
stuff'
working using my HV-PC w/ Xantech dual emitters plugged into the back. Help
file
describes how to input the IR signal data but I want to know if I can simply
edit the existing VCR:REC ect items instead of starting over. Also, I don't
need
the Announcement along w/ the Record (am using the bedroom TV/VCR for this
and
the 'BOSS' will get very upset if the computer starts announcing that it
will
'Record Poirot in 60 seconds' at 2am!!!). Can this be done?
Thanks,
Tom
----- Original Message -----From: Thomas Hutchins-TASent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 7:19 AMSubject: Re: [ECS] problem upgradingGreat ain't it. And yes the channnel guide they send has 3 channel columns for
basic, std, and digital.
Yeah I was figuring I'd need 2 TZ-E, 2 TV-Guides, and 2 TV-Listings 1 ea for VCR
and 1 ea for cable box.
I currently have TZ-E set up for the VCR so the channels are set up for basic, I
need to add 1 for the cable box. Don't know for sure but there ought to be a way
to have TV.BAT parse TVL.HTM into TVL(VCR).TXT and TVL(STD).TXT and then use
those files for TV-Guide and TVL for each.
Tom
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So to record TBS the VCR needs to be set to #57 while the cable box should be
set to #6 to watch it? Cute. How does one use a paper TV Guide? Are there two
listing?
If this is the case, (Uggh) perhaps you need two TZ-(?).CHN. One for the VCR and
one for the cable box. When you run TVL.BAT which listings do you get, the basic
or enhanced? If you can figure out how to get both listings, maybe we can make
this work.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Hutchins-TA
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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [ECS] problem upgrading
Don,
Many of the channel #'s are different between the basic and the std for
example
TBS is channel 6 on std and channel 57 on basic. Go figure.
Tom
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Tom:
Am I to understand that your cable company's basic channel lineup is
DIFFERENT
than the enhanced cable..or do you need different IR-Signals for the VCR and
Cable Box?
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Hutchins-TA
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ECS] problem upgrading
All,
Never mind about the announcement before recording part, figured that one
out
with help from Mark S. & Don.
Now, my basic cable (TIME WARNER) is fed directly into the VCR on this set
and
so I don't need to use the cable box but rather the VCR to select the
channel.
However on my other set I will use the std cable box to change channels and
the
two don't necessarily use the same channel #'s(thanks TIME WARNER:-().
Therefore
I don't want to just set the cable channels to work with the VCR.
To make a long story short would I create a new event called 'VCR chan set'
and
add a reference to it in TVR just like 'cable chan set' and use some logic
to
decide which " chan set" to use?
And to get really bizarre how hard would it be to have 2 TV-guides one for
basic
cable (VCR) and one for std cable box.
If anyone has read this far and wondering why in the hell would anyone go to
this much trouble it's because the cable box is in the living room and all
hell
would break loose if in the middle of 'Blues Clues' the TV switched to
record
the football game for me. So most of the recording will happen on the second
TV/VCR but it doesn't get all of the cable channels and I can't afford the
extra
cable boxes just for this!
Thanks,
Tom
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Mark S.
By editing the VCR:REC item I mean changing the 'ITEM' VCR:REC from IR
SIGNAL
to
NUMBER and using that to store the IR signal ID. I couldn't see any reason
to
have items set up for IR-2B and then have to set up new ones for HV.
As for the announce I thought that if TVL was set up to record a favorite it
would speak a 'record warning' automatically, is that true?
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Sekelsky
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:23 PM
Subject: RE: [ECS] problem upgrading
I am not sure what you mean by editing VCR:REC, but if you mean editing
the
item in example.cfg the answer is no. The HV unit needs to have your
specific
IR signals stored within it.
I know what you mean about midnight announcements. When I first started
playing with the TVL events I had "Star Trek" announced like a gazillion
times
after midnight. In my case I have a "flag" set when we are in bed. I
simply
added a IF (might be a BEGINIF) statement to not make announcements if we
were
in bed. Mark has this in example.cfg as well (If Awake is Not True, or
something like that). If you don;t have a status such as these you could
easily
incorporate a line(s) like:
If Time Is LT 11:00 PM
And Time Is GT 7:00 AM
Then TV Shows Announce Set Speak
Mark S
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Hutchins [mailto:hutchins ta@fuse.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 7:06 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: Re: [ECS] problem upgrading
Mark, Don, Paul,
Thanks to all your help I have TV-Guide / TV-Listings up and running
great!!!!!!!!
I had two things wrong first of all I didn't realize that my TZ-E file
was
overwritten when I upgraded so I had to go back in and "start from scratch"
adding "*"'s and changing the channel #'s. Secondly, when I cut and pasted
some
of the TVL items into ecs.cfg somehow some extra spaces got into the 'FILE :
'
lines and so ECS was looking for " : TVL.TXT" for example. So , a little
editing repair work and now everything works great!!
Now for a question. I want to get the VCR to record my favorites! I
understand the selection of favs no problem. Now I need to get the 'IR
stuff'
working using my HV-PC w/ Xantech dual emitters plugged into the back. Help
file
describes how to input the IR signal data but I want to know if I can simply
edit the existing VCR:REC ect items instead of starting over. Also, I don't
need
the Announcement along w/ the Record (am using the bedroom TV/VCR for this
and
the 'BOSS' will get very upset if the computer starts announcing that it
will
'Record Poirot in 60 seconds' at 2am!!!). Can this be done?
Thanks,
Tom