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Re: [ECS] [Fwd: Software Support] Ingo Pakleppa Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:14:59 -0700

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The quick answer is: it can't be done with the old monolithic ECS. David 
had suggested to use "service-it" (and there is a similar tool in the NT 
resource kit that is also available as freeware), but it won't work for 
ECS. The problem is that services cannot have a user interface (actually, 
that is not quite true, but is for the purposes of ECS).

The only way ECS could be run as a service is if it was designed from the 
ground up to do that. ECS would have to have two parts: one part that 
implements the engine (this one would simply run without ever bringing up a 
window), and a separate program that implements the user interface.

It seems that with the new Web/Java interface, Mark is doing something like 
that, and with that implementation, Ken can run the actual ECS as a service.

Ingo

At 08:50 AM 4/5/00 -0400, Mark Gilmore wrote:
>NT users: Any answer for Ken ?
>Thanks
>--
>Mark Gilmore
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>That is what I expected.  When I do my house I intend to dedicate one of 
>my old boxes to it.  My dad always leaves his running, but the problem 
>there is when a different user wants to login.  Do you know if I can setup 
>ECS to run as an NT service (applications which run regardless of the 
>current user)?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Gilmore [<mailto:omnip@usit.net>mailto:omnip@usit.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 9:39 AM
>To: Claussen, Ken
>Subject: Re: Software Support
>
>Hi Ken,
>ECS requires a running PC.
>The CK11A does not support the download of IF/THEN/ELSE logic.
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>Mark Gilmore
>Omnipotence (ECS home automation software)
><http://www.usit.com/omnip>http://www.usit.com/omnip
>423-745-0026
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> > Claussen, Ken wrote:
> >
> > Does ECS need to be active for the events to be processed, or can it
> > download the information to the ck11A?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Gilmore [<mailto:omnip@usit.net>mailto:omnip@usit.net]
> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:04 AM
> > To: Claussen, Ken
> > Subject: Re: Software Support
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> > I don't know what an NT "service alert" or "event viewer" is,
> > but I CAN tell you that ECS can execute other programs
> > (which could perform such tasks). To do this, you would
> > create a TEXT Item having the desired command (program)
> > and set it to EXECUTE. If required, you could create this
> > Text-Line dynamically (to append any event-specific arguments
> > to the command).
> >
> > ECS can also write any desired info to a file (which could
> > possibly be "picked up" and acted on by other software).
> >
> > Feel free to call if you have more questions.
> > Later...
> > --
> > Mark Gilmore
> > Omnipotence (ECS home automation software)
> > <http://www.usit.com/omnip>http://www.usit.com/omnip
> > 423-745-0026
> >
> > > Claussen, Ken wrote:
> > >
> > > Questions
> > > Can you run ECS as a service, for monitoring?  Can it send an NT
> > > administrative alert, or write to the Event Viewer?  I appreciate
> > your
> > > help in understanding the interface and technology.  I look forward
> > to
> > > utilizing it to its fullest potential. FYI, I am running ECS on
> > > Windows 2000 Advanced Server (Running Terminal Services in
> > > Administrative mode) and it appears to support it fully.  Since it
> > is
> > > built on NT I would expect it to, but several applications have had
> > > problems, including Quicken, Norton Utilities(A function of the
> > > difference between NTFS 4 and NTFS 5), and ICQ (Strange Memeory
> > leaks
> > > in Application-Server Terminal services mode.  I am sure I will have
> >
> > > more questions later, again thanks for your help in the intiial
> > setup.
> > >
> > > Ken Claussen MCSE CCA
> > > kclausse@columbus.rr.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Gilmore [<mailto:omnip@usit.net>mailto:omnip@usit.net]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 5:58 PM
> > > To: Claussen, Ken
> > > Subject: Re: Software Support
> > >
> > > Hi Ken,
> > > I THINK that the CK11A is identical to the CM11A.
> > > Please give me a call (today is OK) and we can do
> > > a quick test to see what's going on.
> > > --
> > > Mark Gilmore
> > > Omnipotence (ECS home automation software)
> > > <http://www.usit.com/omnip>http://www.usit.com/omnip
> > > 423-745-0026
> > >
> > > > Claussen, Ken wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mark,
> > > > I tried to install on windows 2000, and it seems to work just
> > fine,
> > > > but I have not been able to establish communications with my PLC
> > > > device.  I bought the Radio Shack Active Home kit, which now comes
> >
> > > > with the CK11A controller.  I noticed the documentation refrenced
> > > the
> > > > CM11A for this kit.  What commands or configuration should be used
> >
> > > > with this device?  I look forward to using the software, it
> > appears
> > > to
> > > > have excellent functionality and control. Thank You.
> > > >
> > > > Ken Claussen MCSE CCA
> > > > kclausse@columbus.rr.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark Gilmore [<mailto:omnip@usit.net>mailto:omnip@usit.net]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 12:11 PM
> > > > To: Claussen, Ken
> > > > Subject: Re: Software Support
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ken,
> > > > ECS runs fine under NT, with one minor exception:
> > > > In order to visually align columns in the Event (script) editor:
> > > >
> > > >         If      Time            Is Now          8PM
> > > >         Then    Light           Set             Off
> > > >
> > > > ECS normally assigns a FIXED font to the script body dialog box.
> > > > But if running under NT, ECS sticks to the proportional font,
> > > > as NT does not allow such font "mixing".
> > > > So under NT, the column alignment in your scripts will be "off".
> > > > Hope this made sense :-).
> > > > Feel free to call if not (or if you have more questions).
> > > > Regards,
> > > > --
> > > > Mark Gilmore
> > > > Omnipotence (ECS home automation software)
> > > > <http://www.usit.com/omnip>http://www.usit.com/omnip
> > > > 423-745-0026
> > > >
> > > > > Claussen, Ken wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Does your Software support Windows NT/2000.  If not when do you
> > > > intend
> > > > > to include this support?
> > > > > Ken Claussen MCSE CCA
> > > > > kclausse@columbus.rr.com

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