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RE: [ECS] Bug in ECSW - System resources eaten up
Michael David
Mon, 24 Aug 1998 21:11:42 -0400

Hi Ingo!

Hmm, I guess that makes sense. Thanks for the info.

Cheers!

Michael David
michael@michaeldavid.com


-----Original Message-----
From:	ingo [mailto:ingo] On Behalf Of Ingo
Sent:	Monday, August 24, 1998 2:23 PM
To:	ecs-list@vancouver.ml.org
Subject:	Re: [ECS] Bug in ECSW - System resources eaten up

Michael,

I suspect that this is completely normal. Probably, the SDK will try to
cache as much as it can, and if it detects low memory, simply release
the cache. Just as Mark said, the free-memory count is fairly useless in
95.

Ingo

Michael David wrote:
>
> Hi Mark!
>
> The memory countdown I am seeing is not at all like the expected memory
> fluctuation in Windows 95.  Free memory continuously counts down at a rate
> of about 100K per second, and the rate of countdown is constant until it
> gets down to somewhere between 400K and 600K where it jumps back up and
> starts the countdown again.  The MS Speech SDK 4.0 is causing this
problem,
> and it has nothing to do with ECS.
>
> Didn't want you to think I was overlooking the obvious.  :)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Michael David
> michael@michaeldavid.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Mark Gilmore [mailto:markgilmore@cococo.net]
> Sent:   Monday, August 24, 1998 11:21 AM
> To:     ecs-list@vancouver.ml.org
> Subject:        Re: [ECS] Bug in ECSW - System resources eaten up
>
> NOTE TO W95 USERS: The FREE-MEMORY Item reflects free physical
> mem and is EXPECTED to fluctuate. This Item is of little use
> under W95, such that I removed it from the example CFG.
>
> Michael David wrote:
> >
> > Hi Troy!
> >
> > Sorry to hear you are having problems.  My system doesn't have that
> problem
> > that you have described.  However, I do have a weird memory thing with
MS
> > Speech SDK 4.0 where the free memory continually decrements down to
> > somewhere between 300 and 600K then jumps back up to 2meg and starts all
> > over again.
> >
> > Regardless, I never seem to run out of resources.  It's been several
days
> > since I have rebooted, and my available resources are as follows:
> > System Resources: 77%
> > User Resources: 77%
> > GDI Resources: 94%
> >
> > Could there be some other program you are using that is causing
problems?
> > What version of Windows95 are you running?  I vaguely seem to remember
> some
> > sort of memory leak problem with TCP/IP I think, that was fixed with one
> of
> > the updates.
> >
> > Anybody else have any ideas?
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Michael David
> > michael@michaeldavid.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Troy Carpenter [mailto:troy.carpenter@arris-i.com]
> > Sent:   Sunday, August 23, 1998 6:19 PM
> > To:     'ecs-list@vancouver.ml.org'
> > Subject:        [ECS] Bug in ECSW - System resources eaten up
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I sent this report to Mark on Saturday, but since my problem is major, I
> > thought I would send it to the entire list and see if anyone else has
> > noticed
> > it.
> >
> > I installed ECS-lite 2 days ago and have noticed a few problems with the
> > windows version, but they all may be related on one root cause.  I had
> > installed 3.4.021, but am now using 3.4.024.  I noticed this problem in
> both
> > versions.
> >
> > The main problem I have found is that ECS eventually chews up all the
> system
> > and GDI resources.  I first found this with First Aid warning me of low
> > resources.  Using the resource meter in W95, I determined when the
> resources
> > are getting eaten.
> >
> > The easiest way do to it is to edit an event, accept and save.  Then
start
> > switching between the group, events, items, and message screens
> > continuously.
> >  You should see your resources start to take a nose dive, eventually
going
> > to
> > zero.   Later experiments show the resources being eaten just by
switching
> > between the different screens, as well as the different entries in the
> > different areas.  It may also happen during event processing since the
> > resources slowly decline even when no input is given to the program.  If
I
> > quit
> > ECS, the resources return to their original levels.
> >
> > Now, the other problems I have may be related...Sometimes the whole
> computer
> > reboots out of the blue when I do something in ECS.  It is may be
because
> > the
> > resources have gone to zero.  Other times ECS just dies.  I don't mean
> > freezing, I mean the windows disappear.  System seems stable, though.
And
> > finally, something (don't know what) causes ECS to go into a continuous
> > redraw
> > cycle and "ding" the system default sound.  There is no way to get out
of
> > ECS
> > once this happens.  Pressing "ESC" stops it, but displays many error
boxes
> > that
> > say "Error SC" or something like that.
> >
> > Anyway, the pressing issue seems to be the System resources.  I just
tried
> > it
> > again and my resources are down to 38% from 65% when I started.
> >
> > Let me know if you have any questions.  Thanks
> >
> > Troy Carpenter
> > troy.carpenter@arris-i.com
>
> --
> Mark Gilmore
> Omnipotence
> Voice:423-745-0026
> FAX  :423-745-1714
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