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RE: [ECS] SECU
bob.terfruchte.amd.com
Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:09:31 -0500

Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:09:31 -0500

A.J.,
 
The LM34 is a 3 lead device that looks like a transistor. Here is a link to
the data sheet: http://www.national.com/ads-cgi/viewer.pl/ds/LM/LM34.pdf
<http://www.national.com/ads-cgi/viewer.pl/ds/LM/LM34.pdf>  I would immerse
it in silicone sealer, (after connecting wires to it of course), before
using it outside.
 
The sky's the limit on what the SECU-16 can potentially monitor or control.
Any real world analog inputs, (light intensity, temperature, wind velocity,
humidity, water levels, etc.) that can be converted to a DC voltage in the
range of 0 to 5 volts can then be converted to a digital value in the range
of 0 to 256 for the ANALOG inputs on the SECU-16. The 8 inputs could also
used as DIGITAL inputs to detect any binary change in value. i.e. Switch
open or closure. Examples would be magnetic switches on windows, doors, etc.
for a burglar alarm, driveway sensors that can be buried in concrete to
detect the arrival of an automobile, the possibilities are endless.
 
The digital outputs can be used to imitate any switch closure, (up to 0.5A
with the SECU-16 but ADI has a module with 10A contacts.) Like pressing a
garage door opener or the like. To control a sprinkler system you would want
to use the heavy duty relay board, (RLY8XA), to control 24 VAC solenoid
valves for each sprinkler zone. (Available from Richdel, Rainbird, etc.)
Other things that could be controlled with digital outputs would be drapery
motors, automatic plant waterers, motorized doors, gates, etc.
 
You might check out the Smarthome site to get some additional ideas on the
myriad of possibilities available: http://www.smarthome.com/
<http://www.smarthome.com/> 
 
Regards,
 
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: A.J. Griglak [mailto:aj@griglak.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:30 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] SECU


OK, thanks.  I'm finally beginning to understand the uses for the SECU-16.
Is the LM34 an indoor/outdoor sensor?
 
What else can be done with the SECU-16?  Could it be used to control garage
door openers, or lawn sprinklers?  
 
What would you use the inputs for?  Open/Closed doors?  Motion detectors?
 
-=A.J.

-----Original Message-----
From: bob.terfruchte@amd.com [mailto:bob.terfruchte@amd.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:49 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] Ocelot - A VERY Satisfied Customer


A.J.
 
No, the ADI SECU-16 is not needed to connect the Bobcats to the Ocelot or
the Leopard. They connect to the ADNET bus, (COM A & COM B), just like the
SECU-16 and other ADI modules do.  (2 wire daisy-chained connections) I have
checked with Mark and ECS does not yet support the Bobcat temperature or
humidity sensors. Perhaps if there are enough of us interested in expediting
development, ($$$), we could get his moved up closer to the top of Mark's
"to do" list.
 
The SECU-16 adds 8 inputs which can be configured as analog or digital
inputs, and 8 low power (0.5A) relay outputs. An alternative to the Bobcat
temperature sensor could be to use one or more of the analog inputs on the
SECU-16 along with LM34 temperature sensors. That way you could have
temperature sensing in up to 8 different zones and ECS already supports it.
The advantage of the Bobcat temperature sensor, I believe, would be that the
"granularity" of the readings would be finer. i.e. You would be able to
detect maybe a .5 degree temperature change instead of 2 degrees.
 
Regards,
 
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: A.J. Griglak [mailto:ajgriglak@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:26 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] Ocelot - A VERY Satisfied Customer



I too, am a satisified Ocelot user (also bought from Worthington).  I don't
have the SECU-16, as I'm not quite sure of what else it would bring to the
table.  I just recently started using the IR capability of the Ocelot, and
was suprised at how easy it was to get the IR working with ECS.  I bought a
IR extension cable ( http://www.smarthome.com/8186.html
<http://www.smarthome.com/8186.html> ) to run from the basement to the
family room (AV equipment).  I had to cut the cable to get it through the
floor, spliced it back up, and had no problems whatsoever.  ECS can now
control the TV and VCR.  I just have to get the TVL stuff working right in
order to utilize it.

Applied Digital has released and are working on several "bobcats."  The only
place this info is available is on the CPU-XA mailing list, which you can
sign up for at http://www.futurestandard.com/mailinglists.htm
<http://www.futurestandard.com/mailinglists.htm>  .  The following is from
one of the techs at App Dig, dated May 3rd.  My question is do you need the
SECU-16 for the temperature or humidity bobcats?

-=A.J.


Temperature and humidity Bobcats are in production.
Delivery to distributors in three weeks.
The other family members will trickle out over the next 12 weeks.
Other Bobcats include:
Light Detector
LED Monitor
Moisture Detector
232 ,485, I-Button
HAI Interface (other interfaces to follow, for lighting control & security)
Contact Closure
Analog Input (or switch input)

New Modules (non-Bobcat)
Video Switcher with Video Overlay (12 weeks)
Speak-EZ (in production)
ADNET HUB (16 weeks)
Enhanced AC line interface (16 weeks)
LCD-80 (16 weeks)
There are others on the list.

Bobcat data can be brought into the Ocelot, CPU-XA, or Leopard.
The data can be displayed on the Leopard in real units (like degrees F, or %
humidy). The data can be entered in a variable, or used in an IF statement.
In other words, you can take action based on the temperature, or the
humidity, or whatever the Bobcat is monitoring.

A common application may be a remote monitoring system. If the temperature
falls outside a preset range, send an alphanumeric page out the modem.
Dan Boone,
Applied Digital, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: bob.terfruchte@amd.com [ mailto:bob.terfruchte@amd.com
<mailto:bob.terfruchte@amd.com> ]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:04 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] Ocelot - A VERY Satisfied Customer


Hi Garren,

The Ocelot has 2-way X-10, and 2-way IR. The SECU-16 adds 8 inputs, digital
or analog, and 8 low current (0.5A) relays. You can check out all ADI's
modules out on their web page at: http://www.appdig.com/adicon.html
<http://www.appdig.com/adicon.html>   You can
download the Ocelot manual too.

Happy hunting!

Bob

A.J.,

The LM34 is a 3 lead device that looks like a transistor. Here is a link to the data sheet: http://www.national.com/ads-cgi/viewer.pl/ds/LM/LM34.pdf I would immerse it in silicone sealer, (after connecting wires to it of course), before using it outside.

The sky's the limit on what the SECU-16 can potentially monitor or control. Any real world analog inputs, (light intensity, temperature, wind velocity, humidity, water levels, etc.) that can be converted to a DC voltage in the range of 0 to 5 volts can then be converted to a digital value in the range of 0 to 256 for the ANALOG inputs on the SECU-16. The 8 inputs could also used as DIGITAL inputs to detect any binary change in value. i.e. Switch open or closure. Examples would be magnetic switches on windows, doors, etc. for a burglar alarm, driveway sensors that can be buried in concrete to detect the arrival of an automobile, the possibilities are endless.

The digital outputs can be used to imitate any switch closure, (up to 0.5A with the SECU-16 but ADI has a module with 10A contacts.) Like pressing a garage door opener or the like. To control a sprinkler system you would want to use the heavy duty relay board, (RLY8XA), to control 24 VAC solenoid valves for each sprinkler zone. (Available from Richdel, Rainbird, etc.) Other things that could be controlled with digital outputs would be drapery motors, automatic plant waterers, motorized doors, gates, etc.

You might check out the Smarthome site to get some additional ideas on the myriad of possibilities available: http://www.smarthome.com/

Regards,

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: A.J. Griglak [mailto:aj@griglak.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:30 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] SECU

OK, thanks. I'm finally beginning to understand the uses for the SECU-16. Is the LM34 an indoor/outdoor sensor?

What else can be done with the SECU-16? Could it be used to control garage door openers, or lawn sprinklers?

What would you use the inputs for? Open/Closed doors? Motion detectors?

-=A.J.

-----Original Message-----
From: bob.terfruchte@amd.com [mailto:bob.terfruchte@amd.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:49 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] Ocelot - A VERY Satisfied Customer

A.J.

No, the ADI SECU-16 is not needed to connect the Bobcats to the Ocelot or the Leopard. They connect to the ADNET bus, (COM A & COM B), just like the SECU-16 and other ADI modules do. (2 wire daisy-chained connections) I have checked with Mark and ECS does not yet support the Bobcat temperature or humidity sensors. Perhaps if there are enough of us interested in expediting development, ($$$), we could get his moved up closer to the top of Mark's "to do" list.

The SECU-16 adds 8 inputs which can be configured as analog or digital inputs, and 8 low power (0.5A) relay outputs. An alternative to the Bobcat temperature sensor could be to use one or more of the analog inputs on the SECU-16 along with LM34 temperature sensors. That way you could have temperature sensing in up to 8 different zones and ECS already supports it. The advantage of the Bobcat temperature sensor, I believe, would be that the "granularity" of the readings would be finer. i.e. You would be able to detect maybe a .5 degree temperature change instead of 2 degrees.

Regards,

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: A.J. Griglak [mailto:ajgriglak@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:26 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] Ocelot - A VERY Satisfied Customer

I too, am a satisified Ocelot user (also bought from Worthington). I don't have the SECU-16, as I'm not quite sure of what else it would bring to the table. I just recently started using the IR capability of the Ocelot, and was suprised at how easy it was to get the IR working with ECS. I bought a IR extension cable (http://www.smarthome.com/8186.html) to run from the basement to the family room (AV equipment). I had to cut the cable to get it through the floor, spliced it back up, and had no problems whatsoever. ECS can now control the TV and VCR. I just have to get the TVL stuff working right in order to utilize it.

Applied Digital has released and are working on several "bobcats." The only place this info is available is on the CPU-XA mailing list, which you can sign up for at http://www.futurestandard.com/mailinglists.htm . The following is from one of the techs at App Dig, dated May 3rd. My question is do you need the SECU-16 for the temperature or humidity bobcats?

-=A.J.

Temperature and humidity Bobcats are in production.
Delivery to distributors in three weeks.
The other family members will trickle out over the next 12 weeks.
Other Bobcats include:
Light Detector
LED Monitor
Moisture Detector
232 ,485, I-Button
HAI Interface (other interfaces to follow, for lighting control & security)
Contact Closure
Analog Input (or switch input)

New Modules (non-Bobcat)
Video Switcher with Video Overlay (12 weeks)
Speak-EZ (in production)
ADNET HUB (16 weeks)
Enhanced AC line interface (16 weeks)
LCD-80 (16 weeks)
There are others on the list.

Bobcat data can be brought into the Ocelot, CPU-XA, or Leopard.
The data can be displayed on the Leopard in real units (like degrees F, or % humidy). The data can be entered in a variable, or used in an IF statement.
In other words, you can take action based on the temperature, or the humidity, or whatever the Bobcat is monitoring.

A common application may be a remote monitoring system. If the temperature falls outside a preset range, send an alphanumeric page out the modem.
Dan Boone,
Applied Digital, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: bob.terfruchte@amd.com [mailto:bob.terfruchte@amd.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:04 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] Ocelot - A VERY Satisfied Customer

Hi Garren,

The Ocelot has 2-way X-10, and 2-way IR. The SECU-16 adds 8 inputs, digital
or analog, and 8 low current (0.5A) relays. You can check out all ADI's
modules out on their web page at: http://www.appdig.com/adicon.html You can
download the Ocelot manual too.

Happy hunting!

Bob