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Re: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] Kevin Trainor Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:11:13 -0500

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Nathan:

Thanks for sharing you experience with the Leopard.  I have been thinking
seriously of using the Leopard for my home automation consoles.  My main
reservation has been that I don't see a way to display text messages on the
Leopard.  Like you, I would like to display temperature, caller-id, etc.
Also, I would like to be able to carry on a dialog with the user with a
combination of text displays and buttons.  If you discover a way to do this
on the Leopard, please let me know.  If I can find a way to address that
requirement, the Leopard would be the ideal device for me.

Thanks.

Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Brown" <nbrown@thystonius.com>
To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules]


Tom,
No worries about the questions.  Writting this down helps me
clarify it in my head.  The Leopards are connected to the ADNET bus and
are slaves to the master Ocelot.  But they can still have their own
programs.  The limitation is that the code run on the Leopards can't
talk to the other modules.  Here is an example:
Local Leopard:
If Touchbutton 15 on self is Pressed Then Set Variable 63=5    'Goto
screen 5
If Touchbutton 25 on self is Pressed Then Send X10 A12 ON      'Turn
Hall Light on
If Receive IR 34 then Send X10 F10 ON  'Activate F10 sequence

Master Ocelot:
If Touchbutton 26 on unit 4 is Pressed then close relay 4 on unit 2
'Turn on something

ECS:
In this situation ECS "should" be able to recieve all the button presses
on every touchscreen.  With this you could do anything from any button.

Wishlist:
+All this to work
+I haven't found a way to display configurable text messages (such as
caller id information for message playback).

Are you planning to use the Bobcat devices (which ones)?  I haven't
found a good way, for the reason above, to use other temp sensors and
display that info on the touchscreens.

Lets keep this conversations going,
Nathan

-----Original Message-----
From: hutchins.ta@pg.com [mailto:hutchins.ta@pg.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:01 AM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules]



Nathan,

Sounds interesting. Let me see if I got this straight. You're using an
OCELOT as
the main interface to ECS and the house. Have multiple LEOPARDS
throughout the
house that are not connected to the OCELOT via the ADNET bus? Each of
the
LEOPARDS have their own programming for their touchscreens and for
'local' use
such as room lights ect. Do they interact with each other? How? What are
you
using ECS to accomplish?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm curious. Sounds like a robust
system, even
if one part goes down the rest still works.

Unfortunately, I was lucky to get a single Leopard with SECU16I and
SECU16IR
past the wife (mostly due to touchscreen - she understands the benfit of
that!)
and chances of getting an OCELOT are slim to none, so I need to maximize
my bang
for the buck using PC / ECS and a single LEOPARD!!

Tom




From: "Nathan Brown" <nbrown@thystonius.com> on 09/28/2000 01:54 AM

Please respond to ecs-list@netbloc.com

To:   <ecs-list@netbloc.com>
cc:    (bcc: Thomas Hutchins-TA/PGI)
Subject:  RE: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules]


One reason to have an ocelot is to be able to ditrubute the processing
across multiple devices.  In my setup I have programs in each Leopard
that deal with button processes and several "station" level commands and
X10 transmission.  The central Ocelot then doesn't have to be programmed
to deal with all button presses, it only has to deal with ones that
affect other modules.  Also, my Leopards are not located where I want to
run a serial cable back to the computer.
This configuration utilizes the "smarts".

Nathan

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Hutchins [mailto:thutchins@cinci.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:48 PM
To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
Subject: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules]


One other thing, on the CPUXA list the current threads indicate that if
you
are setting up a new install and want to have the LEOPARD then there is
no
reason to have an OCELOT unless you want an additional IR reciever point
in
a separate room from the LEOPARD(basically the internal smarts of the
extra
OCELOT would be wasted).
 Hope that helps.

Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Hutchins" <thutchins@cinci.rr.com>
To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules]


> Mark,
>
> Sorry about that. I "assumed" that we were on the same page. My
> understanding from the CPUXA list is that the Leopard is simply an
OCELOT
> with a touch screen. You use the same CMAX software for both and there
is
no
> "special" coding for the Leopard other than for the touchscreen.
>
> Tom
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Gilmore" <omnip@usit.net>
> To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules]
>
>
> > Yes - this is CRITICAL information.
> > I don't know if this will work at all,
> > as this is not a supported configuration.
> > And I know it won't work unless the Leopard
> > acts exactly like the Ocelot.
> > --
> > Mark Gilmore
> > Omnipotence (ECS home automation software)
> > http://omnipotencesoftware.com
> > 423-745-0026
> > Hours: Mon-Sat, 9AM-8PM/EST
> >
> >
> > Tom Hutchins wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > There is no OCELOT. The Leopard is acting as the OCELOT as well as
the
> > > touchscreen, (has the touchscreen interface with the guts of the
OCELOT)
> and
> > > the Leopard is the only thing attached to the computer!
> > >
> > > Does that help?
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Gilmore" <omnip@usit.net>
> > > To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 6:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules]
> > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > > Do you have any OTHER kinds of modules ?
> > > > Perhaps your Ocelot firmware is too old
> > > > to recognize the Leopard (??).
> > > > --
> > > > Mark Gilmore
> > > > Omnipotence (ECS home automation software)
> > > > http://omnipotencesoftware.com
> > > > 423-745-0026
> > > > Hours: Mon-Sat, 9AM-8PM/EST
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tom Hutchins wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have the Leopard working fine using CMAX. However, CMAX
doesn't
> have
> > > near
> > > > > the ease of use as ECS. I don't have any other modules hooked
up
yet
> as
> > > I
> > > > > prefer to make sure each thing is working properly before I
add
the
> next
> > > > > item. Sure makes troubleshooting easier.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <bob.terfruchte@amd.com>
> > > > > To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 6:34 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules]
> > > > >
> > > > > > Tom,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you "find" the modules with the C-Max software from
ADI??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob Terfruchte, Jr.
> > > > > > Austin, TX
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Mark Gilmore [mailto:omnip@usit.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:29 PM
> > > > > > To: ecs-list@netbloc.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom,
> > > > > > As I suspected, your dump shows that the OCELOT is
> > > > > > reporting NO modules of any kind. You might want to
> > > > > > call ADI on this (the 254's signify "no module"):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Transmit ("get unit types" command):
> > > > > > 42 0 0 1 176 0 148 39
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Received:              1st 2nd 3rd ...
> > > > > > 42 0 0 1 176 0 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254
254
> > > > > > 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254
254
> > > > > > ....
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Mark Gilmore
> > > > > > Omnipotence (ECS home automation software)
> > > > > > http://omnipotencesoftware.com
> > > > > > 423-745-0026
> > > > > > Hours: Mon-Sat, 9AM-8PM/EST
>

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