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| Subject: From: Date: | Re: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] Joseph Rutkowski Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:50:41 -0400 |
Hello Bill I found some of the Epsons on Ebay about 1 year ago. An Epson dealer had gotten a bunch of them and he sold them in auctions. The others I bought from people that could not get them working with Win 95. It actually took me almost a year to find the correct software to get EVERYTHING on them to work. I somehow found a gentleman who had a complete stash of the required software along with some experimental stuff (I think he worked for Epson). Anyway they are great little touchscreens.Here are the pros and cons of these units. PROS Very Sleek looking and small. Virtually ALL Screen. Fairly Easy to set up (Once you have the correct drivers) Has a few external ports for other interfaces (Keyboard, Mouse, Serial, Parallel, IR, Audio, PCMCIA) Screen Is very bright and readable for 640 X 480 Excellent for use with ACE Graphics Very lightweight and battery powered CONS Processor a bit slow (486DX2-50) Not all PCMCIA cards work in the unit. (The older the better) Touch screen could be a bit more sensitive. Does not have all the nice power down and sleep features of newer notebooks. Even with the slow processor ACE runs well. As far as the touchscreen. The unit comes with a plastic pen which I use while doing Windows type functions because the click boxes are very small and require a pointed object. With ACE the buttons are much larger and I basically tap the buttons of ACE with the fingernail part of my finger(More like tapping on the screen) to make selections. All in all I think they are great (For the price). If you need any more info let me know. I have been playing with these for a while. Later Joe Rut Bill Walters wrote: > Joe, > > Where in the world did you find all those Epson EHT-400C's ?? I'd sure be > interested in 2 or 3 to configure for wireless. > > Any pro's or con's ??? Oh, do you HAVE to use the pen or is finger ok? > > Bill Walters > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <joerut@epix.net> > To: "Kevin Trainor" <kevin@thetrainors.com>; <ecs-list@netbloc.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 9:33 PM > Subject: Re: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] > > > Kevin > > > > I am using ECS with ACE and 10 Epson EHT-400C pen > > touchscreens linked VIA wired and wireless LAN. With the > > combination of ECS and ACE it seems like ANYTHING can be > > accomplished. I presently have My caller ID info pop up on ALL > > touchscreens for 30 seconds. When the phone line is sensed off- > > hook the touchscreen selects a page in ACE that I have set up as > > a sort of quick dialing directory. From any touchscreen you just > > touch the person you want to call and ECS dials the phone #. I > > also have a page that displays ALL of my WEATHER MONITOR II > > data along with HIGHS and LOWS for the day. I can go on and on > > for ever about my setup and how great these two programs work > > together. I picked up the touchscreens pretty cheap (about $100 > > each) and had to add some extras that probally brought the cost > > for each touchscreen to about $200.00. I am not sure how that > > compares to the Leopard. If you would like any more info let me > > know. > > > > Later > > Joe Rut > > > > > > > > > > On 28 Sep 2000, at 11:11, Kevin Trainor wrote: > > > > > Nathan: > > > > > > Thanks for sharing you experience with the Leopard. I have been > thinking > > > seriously of using the Leopard for my home automation consoles. My main > > > reservation has been that I don't see a way to display text messages on > the > > > Leopard. Like you, I would like to display temperature, caller-id, etc. > > > Also, I would like to be able to carry on a dialog with the user with a > > > combination of text displays and buttons. If you discover a way to do t > his > > > on the Leopard, please let me know. If I can find a way to address that > > > requirement, the Leopard would be the ideal device for me. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Kevin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nathan Brown" <nbrown@thystonius.com> > > > To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 10:55 AM > > > Subject: RE: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] > > > > > > > > > Tom, > > > No worries about the questions. Writting this down helps me > > > clarify it in my head. The Leopards are connected to the ADNET bus and > > > are slaves to the master Ocelot. But they can still have their own > > > programs. The limitation is that the code run on the Leopards can't > > > talk to the other modules. Here is an example: > > > Local Leopard: > > > If Touchbutton 15 on self is Pressed Then Set Variable 63=5 'Goto > > > screen 5 > > > If Touchbutton 25 on self is Pressed Then Send X10 A12 ON 'Turn > > > Hall Light on > > > If Receive IR 34 then Send X10 F10 ON 'Activate F10 sequence > > > > > > Master Ocelot: > > > If Touchbutton 26 on unit 4 is Pressed then close relay 4 on unit 2 > > > 'Turn on something > > > > > > ECS: > > > In this situation ECS "should" be able to recieve all the button presses > > > on every touchscreen. With this you could do anything from any button. > > > > > > Wishlist: > > > +All this to work > > > +I haven't found a way to display configurable text messages (such as > > > caller id information for message playback). > > > > > > Are you planning to use the Bobcat devices (which ones)? I haven't > > > found a good way, for the reason above, to use other temp sensors and > > > display that info on the touchscreens. > > > > > > Lets keep this conversations going, > > > Nathan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: hutchins.ta@pg.com [mailto:hutchins.ta@pg.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:01 AM > > > To: ecs-list@netbloc.com > > > Subject: RE: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] > > > > > > > > > > > > Nathan, > > > > > > Sounds interesting. Let me see if I got this straight. You're using an > > > OCELOT as > > > the main interface to ECS and the house. Have multiple LEOPARDS > > > throughout the > > > house that are not connected to the OCELOT via the ADNET bus? Each of > > > the > > > LEOPARDS have their own programming for their touchscreens and for > > > 'local' use > > > such as room lights ect. Do they interact with each other? How? What are > > > you > > > using ECS to accomplish? > > > > > > Sorry for all the questions, but I'm curious. Sounds like a robust > > > system, even > > > if one part goes down the rest still works. > > > > > > Unfortunately, I was lucky to get a single Leopard with SECU16I and > > > SECU16IR > > > past the wife (mostly due to touchscreen - she understands the benfit of > > > that!) > > > and chances of getting an OCELOT are slim to none, so I need to maximize > > > my bang > > > for the buck using PC / ECS and a single LEOPARD!! > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Nathan Brown" <nbrown@thystonius.com> on 09/28/2000 01:54 AM > > > > > > Please respond to ecs-list@netbloc.com > > > > > > To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com> > > > cc: (bcc: Thomas Hutchins-TA/PGI) > > > Subject: RE: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] > > > > > > > > > One reason to have an ocelot is to be able to ditrubute the processing > > > across multiple devices. In my setup I have programs in each Leopard > > > that deal with button processes and several "station" level commands and > > > X10 transmission. The central Ocelot then doesn't have to be programmed > > > to deal with all button presses, it only has to deal with ones that > > > affect other modules. Also, my Leopards are not located where I want to > > > run a serial cable back to the computer. > > > This configuration utilizes the "smarts". > > > > > > Nathan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tom Hutchins [mailto:thutchins@cinci.rr.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:48 PM > > > To: ecs-list@netbloc.com > > > Subject: [ECS] Fw: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] > > > > > > > > > One other thing, on the CPUXA list the current threads indicate that if > > > you > > > are setting up a new install and want to have the LEOPARD then there is > > > no > > > reason to have an OCELOT unless you want an additional IR reciever point > > > in > > > a separate room from the LEOPARD(basically the internal smarts of the > > > extra > > > OCELOT would be wasted). > > > Hope that helps. > > > > > > Tom > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Hutchins" <thutchins@cinci.rr.com> > > > To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:41 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] > > > > > > > > > > Mark, > > > > > > > > Sorry about that. I "assumed" that we were on the same page. My > > > > understanding from the CPUXA list is that the Leopard is simply an > > > OCELOT > > > > with a touch screen. You use the same CMAX software for both and there > > > is > > > no > > > > "special" coding for the Leopard other than for the touchscreen. > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Mark Gilmore" <omnip@usit.net> > > > > To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:05 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes - this is CRITICAL information. > > > > > I don't know if this will work at all, > > > > > as this is not a supported configuration. > > > > > And I know it won't work unless the Leopard > > > > > acts exactly like the Ocelot. > > > > > -- > > > > > Mark Gilmore > > > > > Omnipotence (ECS home automation software) > > > > > http://omnipotencesoftware.com > > > > > 423-745-0026 > > > > > Hours: Mon-Sat, 9AM-8PM/EST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Hutchins wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no OCELOT. The Leopard is acting as the OCELOT as well as > > > the > > > > > > touchscreen, (has the touchscreen interface with the guts of the > > > OCELOT) > > > > and > > > > > > the Leopard is the only thing attached to the computer! > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that help? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Mark Gilmore" <omnip@usit.net> > > > > > > To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 6:51 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > > Do you have any OTHER kinds of modules ? > > > > > > > Perhaps your Ocelot firmware is too old > > > > > > > to recognize the Leopard (??). > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Mark Gilmore > > > > > > > Omnipotence (ECS home automation software) > > > > > > > http://omnipotencesoftware.com > > > > > > > 423-745-0026 > > > > > > > Hours: Mon-Sat, 9AM-8PM/EST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Hutchins wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the Leopard working fine using CMAX. However, CMAX > > > doesn't > > > > have > > > > > > near > > > > > > > > the ease of use as ECS. I don't have any other modules hooked > > > up > > > yet > > > > as > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > prefer to make sure each thing is working properly before I > > > add > > > the > > > > next > > > > > > > > item. Sure makes troubleshooting easier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: <bob.terfruchte@amd.com> > > > > > > > > To: <ecs-list@netbloc.com> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 6:34 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you "find" the modules with the C-Max software from > > > ADI?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Terfruchte, Jr. > > > > > > > > > Austin, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Mark Gilmore [mailto:omnip@usit.net] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:29 PM > > > > > > > > > To: ecs-list@netbloc.com > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ECS] [Fwd: [ECS] AD "Bobcat" Modules] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > > > > As I suspected, your dump shows that the OCELOT is > > > > > > > > > reporting NO modules of any kind. You might want to > > > > > > > > > call ADI on this (the 254's signify "no module"): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Transmit ("get unit types" command): > > > > > > > > > 42 0 0 1 176 0 148 39 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Received: 1st 2nd 3rd ... > > > > > > > > > 42 0 0 1 176 0 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 > > > 254 > > > > > > > > > 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 > > > 254 > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Mark Gilmore > > > > > > > > > Omnipotence (ECS home automation software) > > > > > > > > > http://omnipotencesoftware.com > > > > > > > > > 423-745-0026 > > > > > > > > > Hours: Mon-Sat, 9AM-8PM/EST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >