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Re: [WARNING - NOT VIRUS SCANNED] [ecs] GMAIL and POSTIE Kevin Keane Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:06:56 -0700

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The error message says that you didn't turn on STARTTLS - and the 
instructions agree with that: SSL/STARTTLS is mandatory. As Mark already 
told you, the free version of Postie does not support SSL, so you would 
be out of luck.

BTW, depending on your mail client, STARTTLS may be called various 
different things. Usually, you'll find the terms TLS, SSL, or secure 
somewhere in the description. You may also sometimes see the protocols 
called POP3S and SMTPS (analogous to http:// - https:// They actually 
use the same encryption).

As another aside and a bit of trivia, SSL and TLS are almost exactly the 
same thing. There is one difference: SSL is encrypted right from the 
start. That is why it uses a different port number (465). TLS starts out 
unencrypted. The mail client then sends the STARTLS command to switch to 
encrypted mode. That is why TLS works over the same port as unencrypted 
connections.

This is primarily important because some mail clients only support SSL 
but not TLS.

William Smith wrote:
> Just wondering if any of you have tried google's POP3 service for 
> access to a gmail account with POSTIE.
>
> I tried it and received an error:
>
> 250-mx.google.com at your service, [24.210.213.24]
> 250-SIZE 28311552
> 250-8BITMIME
> 250-STARTTLS
> 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> AUTH PLAIN
> 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first 18sm10635516nzo
> AG9tbmlrZXkAY2RldjIzMzg=
> 502 5.5.1 Unrecognized command 18sm10635516nzo
> AUTH LOGIN b21uaWtleQ==
> 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first 18sm10635516nzo
> Login '<myusrname>' failed: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command 
> first 18sm10635516nzo
> QUIT
> 221 2.0.0 mx.google.com closing connection 18sm10635516nzo
>
>
> Google seems to be completely open to allow it users access their mail 
> accounts from any type of mail client, the details for generic access 
> at the following URL.
>
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287
>
>
> I have placed and except from this page below. Any thoughts or 
> comments would be appreciated.
> Best regards,
> Bill
>
>
>       Configuring other mail clients
>
> You can use the following information to configure POP with many mail 
> clients. If you encounter difficulties, we suggest contacting your 
> mail client's customer support department for further instructions -- 
> we're not able to provide assistance with configuring mail clients not 
> listed here 
> <http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103&topic=1555>.
> *Incoming Mail (POP3) Server - requires SSL:* 	pop.gmail.com
> *Use SSL*: Yes
> *Port*: 995
> *Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - requires TLS:* 	smtp.gmail.com (use 
> authentication)
> *Use Authentication*: Yes
> *Use STARTTLS*: Yes (some clients call this SSL)
> *Port*: 465 or 587
> *Account Name: * 	your Gmail username (including @gmail.com)
> *Email Address: * 	your full Gmail email address (username@gmail.com)
> *Password: * 	your Gmail password
>
> Please note that if your client does not support SMTP authentication, 
> you won't be able to send mail through your client using your Gmail 
> address.
> ** Did you click 'Save Changes' after enabling POP in Gmail 
> <http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13273>?* To 
> ensure that Gmail can communicate with your mail client, be sure to 
> click *Save Changes* on the Gmail *Forwarding and POP* settings page.
>
> updated 8/31/2007
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