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RE: [ecs] Smarthome USB Powerlinc
Mark Gilmore
Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:40:50 -0800
Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:40:50 -0800
Hi Paul,
I'm sorry, but this looks like a *major* hassle (plus Linux only, *and* 
revision-dependent).
What I can't figure out is how they expect companies to support a device 
without a protocol spec.

At 10:11 PM 2/10/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>Here is the section I think will do you the most good.  This is from his
>FAQ.  I'm keeping it here in the list because others might be interested.
>
>Q: How did you get the programming documentation for the PowerLinc USB?
>A: This was the most difficult transceiver to write code for.  I started by
>contacting SmartHome and they were very polite but said that they didn't
>have the time to provide the information.  The original PowerLinc Serial
>manual was somewhat limited and took a few days of experimentation to make
>work.  Imagine the number of technical support calls they would get by
>releasing programming information for a USB interface that few people have
>programmed to in the first place. I can't fault SmartHome at all because USB
>isn't as simple as writing to a serial port and generally is not likely to
>be a simple weekend project for someone.  To write a transceiver driver, you
>need 4 basic things: 1) the communications method for the device, 2) the
>translation table for generating the X10 signals, 3) the transmission
>communications sequence and packet format, 4) the receive communications
>sequence and packet format.  The communications method was easy enough to
>figure out by interrogating the USB device to find out that it was a HID
>class device which preferred interrupt mode for communications.  All of the
>documentation for USB drivers skips over how to communicate in interrupt
>form and always uses polling with bulk transfers.  Even the Synapse software
>from SmartHome says that it uses polling.  I turned to the IBM Bluetooth USB
>drivers that had an interrupt driven receiver and figured out how to at
>least write a receiver.  By complete accident I was just testing out the
>receiver to see if I could even load the module at 10:30pm at night when my
>main computer started sending the X10 signals to put the house to sleep.  I
>received all of the signals and found out that the receive protocol is
>incredibly simple in that it doesn't require any handshaking (identical in
>process to the PowerLinc Serial).  From there I turned on the receiver and
>sent enough codes on the line to figure out the translation table (minus the
>extended codes).  The last one was the most difficult.  After banging
>against the device for a day thinking that the transmission process was as
>simple as the receive, I went to www.usb.org and found a link to USB Central
>which had a freeware USB sniffer for windows.  I fired it up, fired up the
>USB Synapse software from SmartHome, and captured the USB traffic.  The
>protocol is similar in process to that of the PowerLinc Serial.  The actual
>data to be sent is very different, and the packet format is different, but
>the concept is similar.  After a bit of signaling, I was able to figure out
>what the fields were for the basic X10 protocol.  After about 32 hours of
>trial and error hacking with the device, I had the protocol documented, and
>about 4 hours later I had fully working drivers.  The documentation for what
>I worked out is provided in the wish-1.4.0 and later packages in PDF format.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Gilmore [mailto:mark1@markgilmore.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:25 AM
>To: ecs@netbloc.com
>Subject: RE: [ecs] Smarthome USB Powerlinc
>
>
>thanks, Paul.
>i'll peruse the stuff tomorrow.
>
>At 08:00 PM 2/10/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >On the Smarthome page I found the following LINK
> >http://wish.sourceforge.net/
> >That link leads to a site with an absolute BUTLOAD of Linux X10 stuff, with
> >Linux code for the USB Powerlinc.  Smarthome itself does not have specs,
>but
> >the guy that set this site up seems to have worked out most everything you
> >would need to get Linux ECS working with the USB Powerlinc.  The Windows
> >version should follow, once you have an idea on how it works.
> >
> >Personally, I think that ECS supporting the newest PLC out there would be a
> >good selling point.  Especially since most everything else X-10 is years
> >old.
> >
> >Take a look at the site, and if you are interested, I would be happy to let
> >you use my USB Powerlinc to play with.  They are only $35 new, so I could
> >get another if there was a Discount in it for me on my copy of ECS<g>.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mark Gilmore [mailto:mark1@markgilmore.net]
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 11:24 AM
> >To: ecs@netbloc.com
> >Subject: Re: [ecs] Smarthome USB Powerlinc
> >
> >
> >Hi Paul,
> >I might consider this if I can find a protocol spec.
> >Do you know where I can find one ?
> >Thanks,
> >
> >At 08:16 PM 2/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > >Mark, have you considered this device?  I purchased one, and am
>considering
> > >running ECS on my XP machine.  My XP machine does not have serial ports,
>so
> > >this seemed like a good idea<g>.  I would be happy to send my USB
>Powerlink
> > >to you for testing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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