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RE: [ecs] MSVM problem Rob Hicks Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:29:34 -0600

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Mark,

I use ECS with Sun's JVM with a fairly extensive setup with no problems. And
sometimes I use IE to access ECS using a Pentium 66MHz machine. While it is
a little slower, it doesn't have the problems that seem to be having. Nope,
I have no explanation.  

--Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Gilmore [mailto:mark@OmnipotenceSoftware.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:31 AM
To: ecs@netbloc.com
Subject: RE: [ecs] MSVM problem

Hi Bill,
Your judgement that Sun's JAVA "works just as well" is most puzzling 
(though perhaps promising).
I have found it to be EXTREMELY slow (at 2.4 GHZ).
When I exit an ECS Page, each applet box closes in sequence (taking 5-10 
second to close all).
When I press [shift] to display a Property menu in the Script editor, it 
takes 20-30 seconds to display it.
Are you not seeing these problems ?
If not, do you have any theories as to why ?
btw, I am having the problems on XP *and* Linux, and am using the latest 
revs of the JRE.
Thanks,

At 02:47 AM 4/20/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>Mark,
>
>I seem to remember, when I got a new XP PRo system to install on my
desktop,
>that per court order, Microsoft had to discontinue production/distribution
>of their VM.  Plus, newer revisions to I.E. had to not use the old
microsoft
>virtual machine stuff.  You now have to load/use the Sun Java stuff...
Most
>computers coming from suppliers/OEM's pre-load the new java stuff from Sun
>to alleviate customer heartaches...
>
>All due to court proceedings, if I remember correctly, not by choice of
>Master Gates..
>
>Go to sun site and get their java stuff.  It should work just a well,
>although not nearly as transparently...
>
>Bill Walters
>
> > it *appears* that the latest rev of I.E. has disabled all support for 
> the MSVM.
> > so i need to verify this and/or determine how to dl an older version (if
> > that's possible).
> > i hate gates.
> >
> > At 07:54 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> > >I'm not sure if it's the same - at least for XP. I've installed java
> > >from the java web site on XP machines running ECS and have had no
> > >problems, might be worth a try.
> > >
> > >Leland
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Mark Gilmore [mailto:mark@OmnipotenceSoftware.com]
> > >Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:45 PM
> > >To: ecs@netbloc.com
> > >Subject: RE: [ecs] MSVM problem
> > >
> > >
> > >we are installing the MSVM (available from numerous sources). why is
the
> > >source web-site important ?
> > >
> > >At 07:43 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Mark -
> > > >
> > > >Are you installing java from www.java.com?
> > > >
> > > >Leland
> > > >lhelgerson@surplushunter.net
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Mark Gilmore [mailto:mark@OmnipotenceSoftware.com]
> > > >Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:05 PM
> > > >To: ecs@netbloc.com
> > > >Subject: [ecs] MSVM problem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I have a customer with a brand new Dell PC.
> > > >It is running the latest version of I.E. (6.0.2800) (same as mine).
> > > >After installing the MSVM (MS JAVA RTE), the "Microsoft VM"
selections
> > > >do *not* appear in I.E.'s TOOLS/ADVANCED window. I can
> > > >remove/re-install the MSVM without any problems. Any ideas ? Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Mark Gilmore
> > > >http://OmnipotenceSoftware.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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