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Re: [ecs] Re: FYI: I will be unavailable for a few days Carl keyes Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:07:14 -0700

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Rick,

I've sat and watched the memory usage and haven't found anything unusal 
at all.
The HAL app, only other one running, isn't setup to do any"listening" in 
any way and uses almost most no resources. Typically the CPU is at about 
1 or 2% usage.
The ECS cfg hasn't been changed, other than re-arranging stuff on group 
screens, in a very
long time.

This really is an out-of-the-blue thing. I haven't tried re-installing 
ECS. Maybe I'll see if I even have
an installer to try.

Thanks,

Carl

rmorten@can-be-scanned.com wrote:

> Carl,
> Do you track your cfg changes?  Have you made any event changes that 
> might be causing this?  What other programs are running on this box?  
> I realize you probably have checked most of this but I have to ask in 
> hoped it will jog your memory or cause you to look somewhere you 
> aren't already looking; it also is indicative that I have no clue 
> where to look at this point either...  <grin>  Do you run ECS with a 
> clean screen or do you have items showing that use system resources 
> (in WIN2K it sucks memory)?
> I guess the next thing is to start Windows Task Manager and watch for 
> memory hawgs (click on Mem Usage to sort by that column).  Perhaps you 
> can catch the culprit prior to it crashing.  I am expecting somewhere 
> you have made a change in your cfg that is causing memory to get used 
> improperly.
> Good luck.
> Rick
> Carl Keyes writes:
>
>> Hi Rick,
>> No, nothing new at all. Yes it's dedicated to HAL and ECS.
>> No detectable virises or anyhting Norton can find wrong either.
>> Doesn't ECS keep some kind of error log?
>> Thanks,
>> Carl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick Mortensen" <rmorten@can-be-scanned.com>
>> To: <ecs@netbloc.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ecs] FYI: I will be unavailable for a few days
>>
>>> Carl,
>>> Hmm.  May I assume a dedicated PC?  Any software changes about a 
>>> month old
>>> now?
>>> Rick Mortensen
>>> www.can-be-scanned.com/HomeAutomation
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Carl Keyes" <ckeyes@california.com>
>>> To: <ecs@netbloc.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 08:06
>>> Subject: Re: [ecs] FYI: I will be unavailable for a few days
>>>
>>> > Hi Rick,
>>> >
>>> > I run HAL 2000, with it to handle telephony and web downloads.
>>> > They've run fine together, same versions, for months on end till 
>>> about a
>>> > month ago when the 4 day crash cycle started.
>>> >
>>> > I'll see if they're any Win 2000 updates I can run and run Norton.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Carl
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Rick Mortensen" <rmorten@can-be-scanned.com>
>>> > To: <ecs@netbloc.com>
>>> > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:58 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [ecs] FYI: I will be unavailable for a few days
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Carl,
>>> > >
>>> > > I am still using 4.4 (a little later but still legacy) and run for
>>> > extended
>>> > > periods of time prior to restarting.  The only time I ever run into
>>
>> any
>>
>>> > > resource issues is when I have a screen up that has to many 
>>> items on
>>
>> it.
>>
>>> > > When the machine is doing what it does best (sitting on a shelf 
>>> with
>>
>> the
>>
>>> > > lights out) I always try and remember to switch to a 'clean' 
>>> screen.
>>> > >
>>> > > The only reason that comes to recent memory that has caused a 
>>> restart
>>> (ECS
>>> > > only; the OS is very stable) is the web interface sometimes 
>>> refuses to
>>> > take
>>> > > any new connections.  ECS then has to be stopped an restarted.  
>>> If I
>>> > didn't
>>> > > use the web stuff I would venture to guess it would run at least a
>>> couple
>>> > of
>>> > > months before having to be touched for any reason...
>>> > >
>>> > > Do you have any other software on your ECS machine?  Is the OS 
>>> up to
>>> date
>>> > > with regards to patches and such?
>>> > >
>>> > > Hope this helps...
>>> > >
>>> > > Rick Mortensen
>>> > > www.can-be-scanned.com/HomeAutomation
>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > From: "Carl Keyes" <ckeyes@california.com>
>>> > > To: <ecs@netbloc.com>
>>> > > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 14:10
>>> > > Subject: Re: [ecs] FYI: I will be unavailable for a few days
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > Hi Bill,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I running Win2000 Pro. Good place to start with Norton.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Carl
>>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > > From: "Bill Walters" <wtwalters@comcast.net>
>>> > > > To: <ecs@netbloc.com>
>>> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:22 AM
>>> > > > Subject: Re: [ecs] FYI: I will be unavailable for a few days
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Carl,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Oh, one other thing I thought of.....  W98 or W98SE - have you
>>> > reloaded
>>> > > > your
>>> > > > > OS lately or have something on your computer (aka Norton) that
>>
>> will
>>
>>> > > > examine
>>> > > > > Windows OS for problems/errors????   You might try that before
>>> buying
>>> > > > > anything...  Sorry I didn't mention it earlier...
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Bill
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > > > From: "Carl Keyes" <ckeyes@california.com>
>>> > > > > To: <ecs@netbloc.com>
>>> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:36 PM
>>> > > > > Subject: Re: [ecs] FYI: I will be unavailable for a few days
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > Thanks Bill. I guess I'll start digging. I wonder how many
>>
>> others
>>
>>> > are
>>> > > > > > still using 4.3 or earlier.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Carl
>>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > > > > From: "Bill Walters" <wtwalters@comcast.net>
>>> > > > > > To: <ecs@netbloc.com>
>>> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 7:35 AM
>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ecs] FYI: I will be unavailable for a few days
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Carl,
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > I'd look at your computer hardware versus the software...
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Cheapest and easiest is  to replace RAM and see if that 
>>> helps.
>>> > > > > > > Next would be to change out CPU (change out cooling fan 
>>> at the
>>> > same
>>> > > > > time).
>>> > > > > > > Lastly, maybe the power supply is getting a little soft and
>>
>> not
>>
>>> > able
>>> > > > to
>>> > > > > > > supply all rated voltage/current.  Easist on this is to buy
>>> > > > replacement
>>> > > > > > > supply and see what it does...
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > I've been running 4.3.017 and it just keeps on 
>>> ticking...  I
>>> have
>>> > > > system
>>> > > > > > set
>>> > > > > > > up to reboot nightly - otherwise, it stops taking 
>>> voicemail in
>>> > about
>>> > > 3
>>> > > > > > days.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Running on old 400mhz K6 system with 256Mb ram, W98SE.  
>>> Only
>>> > > software
>>> > > > > > > running is ECS and RAdmin.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Bill Walters
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > > > > > From: "Carl Keyes" <ckeyes@california.com>
>>> > > > > > > To: <ecs@netbloc.com>
>>> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 4:36 PM
>>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ecs] FYI: I will be unavailable for a few 
>>> days
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Hey,
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Yes, I'm still a 4.3 legacy user. Love it, and it does
>>> > everything
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > > > > > more than what I need. Lately it has been crashing about
>>
>> every
>>
>>> 4
>>> > > > days
>>> > > > > > > > or so with an error message, " Out of memory heap".
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > I know it's not really supported anymore but I thought 
>>> I'd
>>> take
>>> > a
>>> > > > shot
>>> > > > > > > > at any info or clue anyone might have as to why, so 
>>> out of
>>
>> the
>>
>>> > > blue,
>>> > > > > > it's
>>> > > > > > > > started to crash like this.
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Is there an error log or something I could take a look at
>>
>> that
>>
>>> > > might
>>> > > > > > give
>>> > > > > > > me
>>> > > > > > > > a clue?
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Many thanks,
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Carl
>>> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > > > > > > From: "Mark Gilmore" <mark1@markgilmore.net>
>>> > > > > > > > To: <ecs@netbloc.com>
>>> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:10 PM
>>> > > > > > > > Subject: [ecs] FYI: I will be unavailable for a few days
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Mark Gilmore
>>> > > > > > > > > http://OmnipotenceSoftware.com
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
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