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Re: [ecs] oops Mark Gilmore Thu, 10 Mar 2005 04:40:51 -0800

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Bill,
ECS (vs ECSL) allows you to easily create any desired type of web-page 
interface.
For example, you can define graphical buttons that do anything you want 
when clicked
(can't get any easier than that :-)).

At 01:53 PM 3/9/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>I quite understand.  My spouse also has balked at most interfaces.  I've 
>managed to automate many things using sensors etc so that its seamless.
>This has worked out well, but has been an integration pain as I have cats 
>and needed to find very special sensors that they couldn't trigger.
>While HS has a web interface which is easier to modify, it isn't easy, at 
>least not by my stds.  It does have nice voice control by phone, so I 
>outfitted the house with a full Engenius cordless system.  That way, my 
>wife can just hit # and say what she wants.  But push come to shove, she'd 
>rather just hit a button.
>Unfortunately, my house design makes running touchscreen panels a real 
>nightmare in terms of cabling and the cost of decent ones has put me off. 
>I'm afraid that ECSL has somewhat spoiled me with its ability to write 
>extremely complicated scripts with relative ease.  My thermostat logic is 
>such that I've never been able to figure out how to move it to Homeseer as 
>HS is event driven.  ECS holds many variables and states and I use 
>comparisions of these with other data to make intelligent temperature 
>decisions.  Haven't been able to figure out how an event-driven system can 
>make the same decisions.
>
>Bill Walters wrote:
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>>Bruce,
>>
>>Yes, I agree with you regarding ECS Legacy, I still love it and it does 
>>everything I need flawlessly.   I just recently acquired a RS-232 
>>interface to my Jandy Aqualink pool/spa controller and haven't yet had 
>>time to integrate it to my system.  I've great confidence in being able 
>>to make it work to meet my needs and just as sure that the newer ECS 
>>would handle it fine, too...
>>
>>Actually, the --ONLY-- reason I have for changing to the newer version of 
>>ECS is the ability (hopefully) to customize the web interface to 
>>something more approaching the highly visual interfaces of Crestron 
>>systems.... yes, the "back end" interfacing would still be 'techie' 
>>compared to Crestron but I'm only concerned about the 
>>displayabilit/usability for the end user.... My wife doesn't like, can't 
>>understand and just plain won't use the ECSL web interface.  She 
>>similarly won't use the R_Admin link to native ECSL screens, although 
>>I've tried desperately to make them understandable/logical for 
>>her....  Also, R_Admin at 5 screens/second seems to pump a lot of info 
>>thru my network but perhaps I've just not designed my home network 
>>adequately... Just hasn't been a factor as she has accepted/likes the old 
>>plain X-10 keypads, with announcements/responses over the home 
>>intercom!  She doesn't like them sitting around the house however and 
>>would like one or two touchscreens (wall mounted, of course) instead...
>>
>>The original web interface of ECSL is just so difficult to modify, it's 
>>light-years above my paygrade.  I've read success stories of others and 
>>tried to read/understand what they've done, but just can't seem for it to 
>>penetrate my thick skull..
>>
>>I've started/stopped so many times with different user interfaces that 
>>just didn't pan out or don't make sense in my current house.....  Of 
>>course, moving twice in the last 5 years has really put a damper on all 
>>of it, too...   And I no longer need ECS to manage my TV's/VCR's - I'm a 
>>true TIVO convert and have 2 Directivo units on my home network - nothing 
>>like doing a little video extraction over the network, deleting 
>>commercials, and burning compilations to DVD!
>>
>>Ah well, musings and ramblings, sorry to take so much bandwidth and say 
>>so little...
>>
>>Bill
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