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| Subject: From: Date: | Re: [ecs] oops Mark Gilmore Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:16:22 -0800 |
please don't pre-judge the new, based on the old At 09:11 AM 3/10/2005 -0600, you wrote: >Mark, > >Yes, I've been told that, and the ECSL doc's say that you --can-- do just >that, however, I've never seen a specific example. Even the one member >here who did make nice graphical screens has moved on. While he went into >great pains to describe what/how, again, he included no example. > >I can read specs, and can read directions, but without even a simple >example in this case, I'm just lost.. > >Bill > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Gilmore" <mark1@markgilmore.net> >To: <ecs@netbloc.com> >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:40 AM >Subject: Re: [ecs] oops > > >>Bill, >>ECS (vs ECSL) allows you to easily create any desired type of web-page >>interface. >>For example, you can define graphical buttons that do anything you want >>when clicked >>(can't get any easier than that :-)). >> >>At 01:53 PM 3/9/2005 -0500, you wrote: >> >>>I quite understand. My spouse also has balked at most interfaces. I've >>>managed to automate many things using sensors etc so that its seamless. >>>This has worked out well, but has been an integration pain as I have >>>cats and needed to find very special sensors that they couldn't trigger. >>>While HS has a web interface which is easier to modify, it isn't easy, >>>at least not by my stds. It does have nice voice control by phone, so I >>>outfitted the house with a full Engenius cordless system. That way, my >>>wife can just hit # and say what she wants. But push come to shove, >>>she'd rather just hit a button. >>>Unfortunately, my house design makes running touchscreen panels a real >>>nightmare in terms of cabling and the cost of decent ones has put me >>>off. I'm afraid that ECSL has somewhat spoiled me with its ability to >>>write extremely complicated scripts with relative ease. My thermostat >>>logic is such that I've never been able to figure out how to move it to >>>Homeseer as HS is event driven. ECS holds many variables and states and >>>I use comparisions of these with other data to make intelligent >>>temperature decisions. Haven't been able to figure out how an >>>event-driven system can make the same decisions. >>> >>>Bill Walters wrote: >>> >>>>Bruce, >>>> >>>>Yes, I agree with you regarding ECS Legacy, I still love it and it does >>>>everything I need flawlessly. I just recently acquired a RS-232 >>>>interface to my Jandy Aqualink pool/spa controller and haven't yet had >>>>time to integrate it to my system. I've great confidence in being able >>>>to make it work to meet my needs and just as sure that the newer ECS >>>>would handle it fine, too... >>>> >>>>Actually, the --ONLY-- reason I have for changing to the newer version >>>>of ECS is the ability (hopefully) to customize the web interface to >>>>something more approaching the highly visual interfaces of Crestron >>>>systems.... yes, the "back end" interfacing would still be 'techie' >>>>compared to Crestron but I'm only concerned about the >>>>displayabilit/usability for the end user.... My wife doesn't like, >>>>can't understand and just plain won't use the ECSL web interface. She >>>>similarly won't use the R_Admin link to native ECSL screens, although >>>>I've tried desperately to make them understandable/logical for her.... >>>>Also, R_Admin at 5 screens/second seems to pump a lot of info thru my >>>>network but perhaps I've just not designed my home network >>>>adequately... Just hasn't been a factor as she has accepted/likes the >>>>old plain X-10 keypads, with announcements/responses over the home >>>>intercom! She doesn't like them sitting around the house however and >>>>would like one or two touchscreens (wall mounted, of course) instead... >>>> >>>>The original web interface of ECSL is just so difficult to modify, it's >>>>light-years above my paygrade. I've read success stories of others and >>>>tried to read/understand what they've done, but just can't seem for it >>>>to penetrate my thick skull.. >>>> >>>>I've started/stopped so many times with different user interfaces that >>>>just didn't pan out or don't make sense in my current house..... Of >>>>course, moving twice in the last 5 years has really put a damper on all >>>>of it, too... And I no longer need ECS to manage my TV's/VCR's - I'm >>>>a true TIVO convert and have 2 Directivo units on my home network - >>>>nothing like doing a little video extraction over the network, deleting >>>>commercials, and burning compilations to DVD! >>>> >>>>Ah well, musings and ramblings, sorry to take so much bandwidth and say >>>>so little... >>>> >>>>Bill >>> >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 3/9/2005 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 3/7/2005 >> >>Mark Gilmore >>http://OmnipotenceSoftware.com >> >>-- >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 3/7/2005 >> > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 3/7/2005 Mark Gilmore http://OmnipotenceSoftware.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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