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| Subject: From: Date: | Re: [ecs] oops Bill Walters Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:24:04 -0600 |
Mark, No, I wouldn't do that but will have to set aside adequate time to setup/install/investigate the new ECS capabilities before I purchase... Right now with my traveling, I'm home 2-3 days, on the road 5-6 days, then cycle begins all over... When I'm traveling, I take my laptop and generally have internet access at least daily but my sleep patterns get so screwed up traveling internationally... I'm not giving up or writing anything off at this point but rather trying to be a realist as to my capabilities... Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Gilmore" <mark1@markgilmore.net> To: <ecs@netbloc.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [ecs] oops > please don't pre-judge the new, based on the old > > At 09:11 AM 3/10/2005 -0600, you wrote: > >>Mark, >> >>Yes, I've been told that, and the ECSL doc's say that you --can-- do just >>that, however, I've never seen a specific example. Even the one member >>here who did make nice graphical screens has moved on. While he went into >>great pains to describe what/how, again, he included no example. >> >>I can read specs, and can read directions, but without even a simple >>example in this case, I'm just lost.. >> >>Bill >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Gilmore" <mark1@markgilmore.net> >>To: <ecs@netbloc.com> >>Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:40 AM >>Subject: Re: [ecs] oops >> >> >>>Bill, >>>ECS (vs ECSL) allows you to easily create any desired type of web-page >>>interface. >>>For example, you can define graphical buttons that do anything you want >>>when clicked >>>(can't get any easier than that :-)). >>> >>>At 01:53 PM 3/9/2005 -0500, you wrote: >>> >>>>I quite understand. My spouse also has balked at most interfaces. I've >>>>managed to automate many things using sensors etc so that its seamless. >>>>This has worked out well, but has been an integration pain as I have >>>>cats and needed to find very special sensors that they couldn't trigger. >>>>While HS has a web interface which is easier to modify, it isn't easy, >>>>at least not by my stds. It does have nice voice control by phone, so I >>>>outfitted the house with a full Engenius cordless system. That way, my >>>>wife can just hit # and say what she wants. But push come to shove, >>>>she'd rather just hit a button. >>>>Unfortunately, my house design makes running touchscreen panels a real >>>>nightmare in terms of cabling and the cost of decent ones has put me >>>>off. I'm afraid that ECSL has somewhat spoiled me with its ability to >>>>write extremely complicated scripts with relative ease. My thermostat >>>>logic is such that I've never been able to figure out how to move it to >>>>Homeseer as HS is event driven. ECS holds many variables and states and >>>>I use comparisions of these with other data to make intelligent >>>>temperature decisions. Haven't been able to figure out how an >>>>event-driven system can make the same decisions. >>>> >>>>Bill Walters wrote: >>>> >>>>>Bruce, >>>>> >>>>>Yes, I agree with you regarding ECS Legacy, I still love it and it does >>>>>everything I need flawlessly. I just recently acquired a RS-232 >>>>>interface to my Jandy Aqualink pool/spa controller and haven't yet had >>>>>time to integrate it to my system. I've great confidence in being able >>>>>to make it work to meet my needs and just as sure that the newer ECS >>>>>would handle it fine, too... >>>>> >>>>>Actually, the --ONLY-- reason I have for changing to the newer version >>>>>of ECS is the ability (hopefully) to customize the web interface to >>>>>something more approaching the highly visual interfaces of Crestron >>>>>systems.... yes, the "back end" interfacing would still be 'techie' >>>>>compared to Crestron but I'm only concerned about the >>>>>displayabilit/usability for the end user.... My wife doesn't like, >>>>>can't understand and just plain won't use the ECSL web interface. She >>>>>similarly won't use the R_Admin link to native ECSL screens, although >>>>>I've tried desperately to make them understandable/logical for her.... >>>>>Also, R_Admin at 5 screens/second seems to pump a lot of info thru my >>>>>network but perhaps I've just not designed my home network >>>>>adequately... Just hasn't been a factor as she has accepted/likes the >>>>>old plain X-10 keypads, with announcements/responses over the home >>>>>intercom! She doesn't like them sitting around the house however and >>>>>would like one or two touchscreens (wall mounted, of course) instead... >>>>> >>>>>The original web interface of ECSL is just so difficult to modify, it's >>>>>light-years above my paygrade. I've read success stories of others and >>>>>tried to read/understand what they've done, but just can't seem for it >>>>>to penetrate my thick skull.. >>>>> >>>>>I've started/stopped so many times with different user interfaces that >>>>>just didn't pan out or don't make sense in my current house..... Of >>>>>course, moving twice in the last 5 years has really put a damper on all >>>>>of it, too... And I no longer need ECS to manage my TV's/VCR's - I'm >>>>>a true TIVO convert and have 2 Directivo units on my home network - >>>>>nothing like doing a little video extraction over the network, deleting >>>>>commercials, and burning compilations to DVD! >>>>> >>>>>Ah well, musings and ramblings, sorry to take so much bandwidth and say >>>>>so little... >>>>> >>>>>Bill >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 3/9/2005 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 3/7/2005 >>> >>>Mark Gilmore >>>http://OmnipotenceSoftware.com >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 3/7/2005 >>> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 3/7/2005 > > Mark Gilmore > http://OmnipotenceSoftware.com > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 3/7/2005 > >